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== So what can stack on a single item? ==
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Well, as the subject says, what can stack and what can't?
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== Voices from Below seemingly does not work on all taunts ==
  
This would probably be important for the main page.
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I tried [[Highland Hound]] taunt with a Voices from Below [[Hair of the Dog]], and I couldn't notice a difference in pitch or speed comparing to videos of players using the set without any spells. Is this a bug? [[User:Lightwo|Lightwo]] ([[User talk:Lightwo|talk]]) 21:16, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
  
[[User:BeAuMaN|BeAuMaN]] 01:22, 28 October 2012 (PDT)
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:This would be a bug, yes, but needs video evidence if it's going to be added.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:25, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
  
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::I recorded [https://files.catbox.moe/lx69gz.mkv a video] (uploaded to Catbox), comparing it to [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2tvumTXumI the official demonstration video] where none of the items were spelled, it's clear there's no difference. [[User:Lightwo|Lightwo]] ([[User talk:Lightwo|talk]]) 07:50, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
  
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:::Could you upload this video to YouTube or another video-hosting site?<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 13:27, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
  
I believe that up to three spells can stack on a hat or weapon, though there are some restrictions. For instance, you can't use multiple voice changing spells to deepen your voice even lower, but you could combine one with [[Halloween Spell: Headless Horseshoes]] and [[Halloween Spell: Sinister Staining]]. So, overall, you can't combine two of the same type of spell.     
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::::I hope [https://peer.lukeog.com/w/sD7N2LZq31Whsov8cbZ9QQ the reupload on this PeerTube instance] will do. [[User:Lightwo|Lightwo]] ([[User talk:Lightwo|talk]]) 15:51, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 
 
[[User:Alloid|Alloid]], 2:43, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Merge all potions info into this page? ==
 
 
 
It seems a lot more convenient that way, than to have individual pages of each potion. It could look like this:
 
 
 
{|class="wikitable collapsible collapsed" style="text-align:center; font-size:90%; font-weight:normal !important;" cellpadding=2
 
! colspan="11" style="background:#F3A957;" | Effect: Vocal Effect
 
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| td colspan="3" style="background:#dee8ed" text-align:center |  Player's vocalizations are 100% lower pitch.
 
|-
 
| width="30px" style="background:#ffbd7e;" rowspan="1" | {{Class link|scout|br=yes}}
 
| style="background:#FFDDAD;" | [[File:Backpack_Halloween_Spell-_Scout%27s_Spectral_Snarl.png|50px]]
 
Scout's Spectral Snarl
 
|-
 
| style="background:#ffbd7e;" rowspan="1" | {{Class link|soldier|br=yes}}
 
| style="background:#FFDDAD;" | [[File:Backpack_Halloween_Spell-_Scout%27s_Spectral_Snarl.png|50px]]
 
Soldier's Booming Bark
 
|-
 
| style="background:#ffbd7e;" rowspan="1" | {{Class link|pyro|br=yes}}
 
| style="background:#FFDDAD;" | [[File:Backpack_Halloween_Spell-_Scout%27s_Spectral_Snarl.png|50px]]
 
Pyro's Muffled Moan
 
|-
 
| style="background:#ffbd7e;" rowspan="1" | {{Class link|demoman|br=yes}}
 
| style="background:#FFDDAD;" | [[File:Backpack_Halloween_Spell-_Scout%27s_Spectral_Snarl.png|50px]]
 
Demoman's Cadaverous Croak
 
|-
 
| style="background:#ffbd7e;" rowspan="1" | {{Class link|heavy|br=yes}}
 
| style="background:#FFDDAD;" | [[File:Backpack_Halloween_Spell-_Scout%27s_Spectral_Snarl.png|50px]]
 
Heavy's Bottomless Bass
 
|-
 
| style="background:#ffbd7e;" rowspan="1" | {{Class link|engineer|br=yes}}
 
| style="background:#FFDDAD;" | [[File:Backpack_Halloween_Spell-_Scout%27s_Spectral_Snarl.png|50px]]
 
Engineer's Gravelly Growl
 
|-
 
| style="background:#ffbd7e;" rowspan="1" | {{Class link|medic|br=yes}}
 
| style="background:#FFDDAD;" | [[File:Backpack_Halloween_Spell-_Scout%27s_Spectral_Snarl.png|50px]]
 
Medic's Blood Curdling Bellow
 
|-
 
| style="background:#ffbd7e;" rowspan="1" | {{Class link|sniper|br=yes}}
 
| style="background:#FFDDAD;" | [[File:Backpack_Halloween_Spell-_Scout%27s_Spectral_Snarl.png|50px]]
 
Sniper's Deep Downunder Drawl
 
|-
 
| style="background:#ffbd7e;" rowspan="1" | {{Class link|spy|br=yes}}
 
| style="background:#FFDDAD;" | [[File:Backpack_Halloween_Spell-_Scout%27s_Spectral_Snarl.png|50px]]
 
Spy's Creepy Croon
 
|-
 
|}<noinclude>
 
</noinclude>
 
 
 
I apologize for the weird format I made up (editing-wise), but I'm not really that intelligent at making formats, and I'm sure there's probably some kind of better format than this... [[User:AbeX300|AbeX300]] 07:46, 28 October 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
:{{c|Support}} I think it's appropriate, rather than having 7 different almost empty pages for these time-limited tools (I'd personally extend this to the voodoo-cursed items and the past [[Misterious Treasures]] from the Pyromania update BTW).--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 04:50, 31 October 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
::{{c|Support}} but {{c|Neutral|slightly disagree}} with the setting. There should be a tablet which covers up every spell like the tablet from the [[Genuine]] article has. [[File:User Ravecrib9t4 Signature Logo.JPG |35px]] [[User:Ravecrib9t4|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#141414 ">TNS</span>]] 07:39, 2 November 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Paint Spells ==
 
 
 
When Paint spells expire do they revert back to a previous paint or do they revert to default no paint? [[User:Nintyuk|Nintyuk]] 10:49, 28 October 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
Good question. I suppose someone with skills can debug and find this out? [[User:BeAuMaN|BeAuMaN]] 12:06, 28 October 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
I used a spell on my painted gibus, and it reverted back to the paint. When using third party inventory viewers, it was the additional effect of being under a spell, not a paint effect. [[User:Pognet|Pognet]] 08:16, 11 December 2012 (PST)
 
 
 
== Demonstrations ==
 
 
 
I think we should make a demonstration video for these effects. At least some images of the effects if this isn't a good idea. [[User:NEG4tive|Neg]] 11:15, 30 October 2012 (PDT)
 
 
 
I agree. Perhaps we can start with pictures and then example videos.
 
[[User:DC64|DC64]] ([[User talk:DC64|talk]]) 15:13, 26 January 2014 (PST)
 
 
 
== Requested move ==
 
 
 
Halloween Items like [[Halloween Masks]], [[Halloween Costumes]] and [[Voodoo-Cursed Items]] used in plural.
 
 
 
So, I don't see any reason for not making this article in plural too (by the way all spells with Vocal Effects using the word «spell» in description in plural).
 
 
 
[[Image:Killicon_deflect_flaming_arrowhs.png|45px]] [[User:ANGEL_UNDEAD|ANGEL_UNDEAD]] 05:39, 26 November 2012 (PST)
 
 
 
== Next halloween event ==
 
 
 
Does anyone know that the spells will be available during the next halloween event? If yes, after the event, will the glitched spells from 2012 expire, or only the new, which will have the "This item will expire on Nov 10 2013" attribute? [[User:Klenium|Klenium]] ([[User talk:Klenium|talk]]) 04:03, 20 September 2013 (PDT)
 
: We wouldn't really know. Most of that is valve's decision. Also, This kind of discussion would better on SPUF. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 06:35, 20 September 2013 (PDT)
 
 
 
== High time we merged some of these ==
 
 
 
Most pages, such as the paint spells and voice changers can easily fit on one page. Many of them don't even have correct backpack icons, just showing a blank bottle. I can start merging these as soon as the paint overlays can be duplicated outside of tf2. Maybe in hlmv? --'''[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]]''' 02:25, 12 November 2013 (PST)
 
:{{c|Yes}}, I agree. Most of these sub spells page are stubs and cannot put any information. Also I think if merge, it'll be a lot easier to update the history. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 03:16, 12 November 2013 (PST)
 
 
 
== Voice change spells? ==
 
 
 
The spells that lower the pitch, can the percentage of change be found in game files or by an educated guess? Do the different voice spells (ie: Medi or Heavy) differ in pitch change? [[User:DC64|DC64]] ([[User talk:DC64|talk]]) 18:10, 30 March 2014 (PDT)
 
:No, they all apply the same effect: "Voices From Below" --[[User:Kincyr|Kincyr]] ([[User talk:Kincyr|talk]]) 12:50, 13 May 2014 (PDT)
 
 
 
== more merge talk ==
 
 
 
having read the conversations regarding merging the individual spell pages into Halloween Spells, I took it upon myself to make a test page within my userspace.<br>
 
[[User:Kincyr/Sandbox/Halloween_Spells]]
 
 
 
for spells that apply the same effect to different classes (i.e. voice spells, pumpkinbomb spells) I used the name of the attribute they grant in their item entry on the right of the page.
 
what does everyone think? --[[User:Kincyr|Kincyr]] ([[User talk:Kincyr|talk]]) 19:08, 13 May 2014 (PDT)<br>
 
 
 
I know this post is like... 9 years ago? But yeah I have the same idea.[[User:Profiteer|Profiteer(奸商)]] ([[User talk:Profiteer|talk]]) 04:38, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Colors ==
 
 
 
I think we should add the colors that spells use. Like #E7B53B for gold paint, and #476291 for vintage items. Is there a list of them? [[User:Klenium|Klenium]] ([[User talk:Klenium|talk]]) 08:55, 21 June 2014 (PDT)
 
: The colors are difficult to do as some of them change colors which require a .gif which on the wiki, kinda eats up a bit.... So its best to hold on it for now. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 12:26, 21 June 2014 (PDT)
 
:: A javascript animation would be enought. Or only the start-end colors. [[User:Klenium|Klenium]] ([[User talk:Klenium|talk]]) 10:15, 22 June 2014 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Color expires? ==
 
 
 
If using a paint spell on an unpainted item, will the hat revert to being unpainted after the event?
 
<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:M15513c0mm4nd|M15513c0mm4nd]]''' ([[User talk:M15513c0mm4nd|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/M15513c0mm4nd|contribs]]) </small>
 
: That was the old system. The new system is that they don't expire, instead the Halloween paint is disabled until you go onto a server with holiday turned on or during a full moon. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 05:33, 28 October 2014 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Footprints do not Overlap or Alternate if you have multiple ==
 
 
 
So found out that Footprint spells do not overlap if you have more than one equipped. Only the footprint spell that is applied to the cosmetic placed highest on your loadout will show. [[User:Nibelhim|Nibelhim]] ([[User talk:Nibelhim|talk]]) 12:25, 29 October 2014 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Images/Videos for Halloween Spells ==
 
 
 
I think we need to get some images or videos showing the different spells effects.
 
 
 
Something like [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag61rkDXW0E this] would be a good idea. :)
 
 
 
[[User:CoreDude98|CoreDude98]] ([[User talk:CoreDude98|talk]]) 20:06, 2 November 2014 (PST)
 
 
 
== Unused Paint Effect ==
 
 
 
Looking through leaked source code, there's an unused Halloween Spell Paint Effect for purple and orange referred to as "purple_orange_rand" and "k_unAfraidOfShadowsDark". You can make it appear by setting the attribute 1004 to 5. https://github.com/lua9520/source-engine-2018-hl2_src/blob/3bf9df6b2785fa6d951086978a3e66f49427166a/game/shared/econ/econ_item_view.cpp#L1479 [[User:Torridgristle|Torridgristle]] ([[User talk:Torridgristle|talk]]) 10:20, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
 

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Voices from Below seemingly does not work on all taunts

I tried Highland Hound taunt with a Voices from Below Hair of the Dog, and I couldn't notice a difference in pitch or speed comparing to videos of players using the set without any spells. Is this a bug? Lightwo (talk) 21:16, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

This would be a bug, yes, but needs video evidence if it's going to be added.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 21:25, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
I recorded a video (uploaded to Catbox), comparing it to the official demonstration video where none of the items were spelled, it's clear there's no difference. Lightwo (talk) 07:50, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
Could you upload this video to YouTube or another video-hosting site?
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 13:27, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
I hope the reupload on this PeerTube instance will do. Lightwo (talk) 15:51, 3 October 2023 (UTC)