Talk:Tournament Medal - UGC Highlander

Unused Paint Variants

Hello. So, the unused paint variant tables right now cause the page to have an overflow, specifically, it adds a category "Pages where template include size is exceeded", and the Hat Nav is not shown properly. Mgpt has recently commented them out as they weren't working as properly, and...

I have talked with a couple people, and, I got conflicting suggestions with what should have been done in regards to the limitation. Right now, I don't think it's possible to increase that limitation on every page on the Wiki, meaning we would need to go with a workaround.

One of them mentioned doing X, and the other mentioned doing Y, where I'm more in favor of Y. I don't know if I can name these people, but, feel free to put your opinions below, for the 2 people I talked to in regards to this. As for the suggestions, there are as follows:

a) Separate all UGC Highlander pages with several pages called "Tournament Medal - UGC Highlander Season 3" , "Tournament Medal - UGC Highlander Season 5", "Tournament Medal - UGC Highlander Season 6, 30-31", etc, so unused paint variants wouldn't have this issue as each season would be separated, and the template size wouldn't exceed;

b) Keep the current UGC Highlander page as normal, without different pages per season, but add a "{{hatnote}}" with information that: "Due to technical limitations, the tables for the unused painted variants are available here", where "here", would link to a subpage ("/Unused painted variants") specifically for unused painted variants. Here's a mockup: https://i.imgur.com/ggxl0Jj (after Imgur loads, right-click on the image, and open in a new tab for full view).

I go for letter B, because it's much more convenient, plus, easier to see all unused painted variants as well, and would circumvent the current limitation as these tables wouldn't be in the main page. It also won't break consistency with other Tournament Medals by separating by Seasons, and, because the unused paint vars. are something that isn't even achievable in-game, they could be in just a sub-page without any issue, as it's more of a "niche" interest, in my opinion.

Keep in mind that, while this has only showed up for this page, it could happen in the future, as the Hat Nav template is always growing in size by "Major" update and Content Packs, meaning that, despite me posting this on the UGC Highlander discussion itself, this could be applied to other pages in the future for Unused paint variants that may exceed limits by the time the Hat Nav grows exponentially. - ▪ - 23:37, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Personally, I think option A is a far better long-term solution. Not only do I think it's better because it fixes this issue, but this page is also a huge eyesore. The intro paragraph is a description of 9 medals, the "list of medals" lists 62 medals, the painted variants only lists a single variant of the medals (despite there being many more variants existing. It makes me wonder if it's a lack of paintability or if it's simply unfinished), the gallery is a huge mess with all the different variants having to be displayed. I think splitting up the pages to be named after the first season they were in (and then redirecting the seasons they were reused in to that page, so instead of "UGC Highlander Season 6, 30-31" it would be "UGCH Highlander Season 6" and the page for Season 30/31 would be a redirect to that) would do much more than just fix this painted variants issue, but also fix this messy page.
| s | GrampaSwood (talk) (contribs) 23:55, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

B is the best option because the issue here is just the unused painted variants and the current page is fine (consistent with other tournament medal pages, although I agree that the list of medals and medal designs sections could be implemented in a different way, but that's another discussion). Splitting the page is not a good idea because it was done in the past if you check the redirects history (for many tournaments, not only UGC). Edit: I forgot to mention the steam redirects, wouldnt work with opt A. Mgpt (talk) 01:04, 14 November 2023 (UTC)