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== Light colors ==
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Some weapons have team multicolored lights. The stickybomb launcher just has plain white lights. - [[User:Devozade|Devozade]] 11:54, 16 December 2011 (PST)
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:I think it has to do with whether the weapon is strange or not. My sticky launcher's weapon icon is multicoloured but the lights are white only [[User:Nanosheep|(nanosheep_inc)]] 16:29, 16 December 2011 (PST)
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: If we look in the model and it looks like it's supposed to be animated, we can probably conclude that there's some kind of error/mistake/bug. Can someone verify that the Festive Stickybomb Launcher is even allowed to be team-colored? All the others are. &ndash; [[User:Fashnek|<span style="text-size:1.5em;font-weight:bold;color:#363;text-shadow:0 0 0.8em #6c6;">fashnek</span>]] <sub>([[User talk:Fashnek|talk]]&#183;[[Special:Contributions/Fashnek|c]])</sub> 15:45, 17 December 2011 (PST)
 
::The deal with the white lights is probably due to the Sticky Launcher still being one of the original models that doesn't have support for RED/BLU.  So if I had to guess Valve just went for the easy and made the light's white.  --[[User:Org|Org]] 01:23, 19 December 2011 (PST)
 
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==Requested Move==
 
This article should really be simply titled "Festive", shouldn't it? It's basically an item quality, and the [[Vintage]], [[Strange]] etc. articles aren't called "Vintage weapons", "Strange Weapons" are they? '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 14:51, 16 December 2011 (PST)
 
: {{c|Agree}} Yep. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 14:51, 16 December 2011 (PST)
 
: {{c|Note}} It's not a quality; there are Strange Festive Scatterguns, for example. Plus, this article is currently only about weapons, since they are currently the only possible Festive items. So I {{c|Disagree}} {{n}} [[User:EpicEric|<span style="color:#5885A2;font-size:15px;font-family:'Trebuchet MS';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;"><b>Epic Eric</b></span>]] <small> ([[User talk:EpicEric|T]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/EpicEric|C]])</small> 14:55, 16 December 2011 (PST)
 
:: {{c|Comment}} Strange quality applies only to weapons too. As for weapons which are both Festive and Strange - well, if an item could be both Vintage and Genuine, it wouldn't really effect how the [[Vintage]] and [[Genuine]] pages are set up, would it? '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 15:10, 16 December 2011 (PST)
 
:::Except that Genuine and Vintage do not stack up; Festive and Strange DO stack up, since Festive is not a quality, but rather a weapon name preffix. {{n}} [[User:EpicEric|<span style="color:#5885A2;font-size:15px;font-family:'Trebuchet MS';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;"><b>Epic Eric</b></span>]] <small> ([[User talk:EpicEric|T]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/EpicEric|C]])</small> 16:29, 16 December 2011 (PST)
 
:{{c|Disagree}} Not a quality, and it's an overloaded term. Festive weapons can have an article, but I don't think "Festive" should have an article unless it's a disambiguation article. I think the best solution is the current one. Festive redirects to Festive weapons, which has a hatnote for Festive crates. If there are future uses, that might warrant a disambig. page at Festive. &ndash; [[User:Fashnek|<span style="text-size:1.5em;font-weight:bold;color:#363;text-shadow:0 0 0.8em #6c6;">fashnek</span>]] <sub>([[User talk:Fashnek|talk]]&#183;[[Special:Contributions/Fashnek|c]])</sub> 15:41, 17 December 2011 (PST)
 
Alright, it appears that the Strange Festive weapons have a new set of ranks, entirely separate from the classical Strange ranks, so my argument no longer has any footing. Case closed. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 04:29, 18 December 2011 (PST)
 
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== Strange festive rank table started ==
 
 
 
I've taken the data from STS and the regular strange ranks table and made this:
 
 
 
{{Festive strange weapon ranks}}
 
 
 
Before including in the main article:
 
 
 
* STS only shows 18 ranks, so the counts are probably wrong. Rank 0 has an empty string.
 
* Rank zero's an empty string... I've put in a message (in English and Italian)
 
* All the dictionary stuff seems to be missing
 
 
 
--[[User:Bp|Bp]] 01:47, 18 December 2011 (PST)
 
 
 
== The Bat ==
 
 
 
Alright there appears to be some back and forth about the bat.  As far as I can tell the bat only shows up as Strange.  I can't find any trace of a Unique one, except for some random data on TF2Stats, but since it's such a small number I don't exactly trust it.  Is there a verifiable backpack link that shows a Unique Festive Bat? --[[User:Org|Org]] 01:25, 19 December 2011 (PST)
 
 
 
== Confirmation that the Bat must be Strange ==
 
 
 
Ok, I contacted the support to ask if the fact that there were no '''Unique''' Festive Bats was a bug/glitch and got an answer. [http://data110.free.fr/tf2/Bat.png Here is a link] to the answer.<br/>
 
Because I contacted the French support, I will put the translation here :
 
 
 
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'''Me'''.
 
 
 
Thanks for the quick answer.
 
 
 
I already saw that answer on the Wiki, but no source affirm that the weapon must necessarily be Strange (this remains a suggestion from the members/players). It looks like a glitch, unless it's wanted by the developers.<br/>
 
Do you have any source? This would allow to complete the Wiki with a 100% reliable source. :)
 
 
 
Cordially,
 
 
 
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'''Support'''.
 
 
 
Hello,
 
 
 
According to my sources, the weapon must be strange.<br/>
 
Feel free to contact us again if you have other questions.
 
 
 
Cordially,
 
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So, according to the support, the Festive Bat '''MUST''' be '''Strange'''. It's not a glitch, nor a bug, it's a choice from the developers. :)
 

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