Talk:Sniper/Archive 1

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Sniper's Class Badge

The Sniper's badge is not quite accurate. The entire background, other than a small team-colored ring, should be yellow. (I could provide a screencap from the SDK if necessary.) Dotchan 21:13, 25 November 2010 (UTC)dotchan

Trivia

An admin once told me that bugs concerning items or character's models shouldn't be listed on the Trivia section, so I was wondering if we should remove the last line of the Sniper's Trivia, which says "The Sniper's world model is only seen with a fingerless glove on his left hand, and a watch on his left arm, where all of his view models have a glove on both hands, and no watch. (Viewmodel_fov must be set higher to see the watch, or lack thereof.)" Allukard 07:25, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Bugs shouldn't really be listed in the trivia section, you could delete it and create a bugs section and list the bugs there.Jarhead 04:16, 5 December 2010 (UTC)Jarhead

Little outfit changes.

Should it be noted that Sniper is the only class to have actual outfit changes with weapon switches?(Huntsman he'll get arrows added to his quiver, Sydney Sleeper the bullets will be changed to darts)CloudT 04:45, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Also, (this is a really small outfit change) with Darwin's Danger Shield, he gets some small teeth around his belt that are attached to the sash that keeps the shield on him. Presumably crocodile teeth. Pierow 05:23, 7 March 2011 (UTC)Pierow

Nah sorry, I don't think that's noteable. GeminiViRiS Talk Contribs 05:26, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Speculation for Sniper's first name

After thinking about it for a bit, I'm pretty sure Sniper's first name is Dick. Why? Well, "Crocodile" Dundee's name is Mick Dundee. Swap the first two letters, and you have Dick Mundee! Ha, fool proof. Not to mention that a lot of sniper players are dicks! ^{[citation needed]} Oh yeah, I'm on the ball right now. SilverHammer 00:31, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

That...makes absolutely sence! It's an awesome theory, but obviously we can't add it, yet. So...Deeck Mundy, Sniper's name. Next one better be Scout's! GianAwesome 00:46, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

This logic is foolproof. It's basically canon now. Right on. -- Babygirl 00:48, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

In the future, please don't spam up mainspace talks with this kind of thing. -Shine 00:50, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

As an Australian myself, I initially jumped to the conclusion that his name forms a hideous pun: Barry. Barry Mundy. Your extremely cheesey reasoning has not dissuaded me from this theory. Just something to consider. Jish 11:58, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

I've been wondering, the outdated wiki listed his name as Richard Mundy, don't know where this name came from. Maybe anyone has any information about this? Trent Easton 09:09, 15 November 2011 (PST)

That's just because Dick is a shortened form of Richard. Anyway, let's keep this discussion on the forums shall we? » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 10:29, 15 November 2011 (PST)

The Sniper's first name is actually Rick according to one of his headwear named Ritzy RICK'S Hair Fixative. Rick also sounds similar to Mick (From Crocodile Dundee).So scratch Dick and Richard, his name is Rick. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jan00333 (talk) • (contribs) 05:12, 29 September 2013 (PDT)

No, it doesn't mean that with 100% proof. -Asplode (talk) 05:18, 29 September 2013 (PDT)

Well wheres your proof then?This is wikipedia you always need proof. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jan00333 (talk) • (contribs) 05:21, 29 September 2013 (PDT)

I was asking where was your proof. -Asplode (talk) 05:22, 29 September 2013 (PDT)

I pointed it out in my first comment :/ — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jan00333 (talk) • (contribs) 05:23, 29 September 2013 (PDT)

So Scout's name is Bill and Wilson at the same time with your logic. How interesting. -Asplode (talk) 05:24, 29 September 2013 (PDT)

What page are you on?I'm talking about the SNIPER not Scout. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jan00333 (talk) • (contribs) 05:25, 29 September 2013 (PDT)

So if you said that, your proof is very POOR. Did you get any confirm by Valve, not from your thinking? Also, sign your comment with ~~~~ too, Asplode is lazy to add {{unsigned}} to you everytime he talk with. Rikka Takanashi (talk) • (contributions) 07:59, 29 September 2013 (PDT)

General Cleanup tag?

Any specific reason why this article is tagged as needing to be cleaned up? It seems pretty good to me. Cloventt 22:04, 25 June 2011 (PDT)

It doesn't need to be cleaned up. - NameUser 22:40, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

Which City in Australia?

Well, I'll have to assume that the Sniper is from Adelaide, a city in South Australia, after I saw this flyer:

http://teamfortress.com/sniper_vs_spy/english.htm

foxontherails 19:32, 12 February 2012 (PST)

Should we also assume that the Spy is a duke, and the Prime Minister? » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 11:24, 13 February 2012 (PST)

Ohh, nooo. I see your argument. So I guess he isn't from Adelaide...— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Foxontherails (talk) • (contribs) 02:34, 14 February 2012

About the Snipers speed

Isn't he slightly faster when zoomed in with the Sydney Sleeper compared to other sniper rifles? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dawngaward (talk) • (contribs) 11:00, 15 February 2012

Not as far as I know. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 03:32, 15 February 2012 (PST)

There should be a new sniper?

Can we get a new sniper that would be able to use for quick-scoping? I know, this may sound stupid, but how about the charge would start from full when you first zoom in, then quick go down to 1% as you keep zoomed in. Maybe also you could decrease the scoping time for more effective quick-scoping? I just like CoD too, so that's why I want something in TF2 where you could quick scope. Maybe this could be something like a rush class for the sniper. Erak606 18:27, 13 March 2012 (PDT)

Head to the forums for weapon discussion and ideas - this page is for discussing the article only. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 18:29, 13 March 2012 (PDT)

Bazaar bargain minor error

Right now the description for the bazaar bargain says '+ 10 charge increase per second'. 'Charge rate increases by 10%' seems better in my opinion. Same story for the penalty applied whem missing. It's a minor fix, but I still thought I should post it here rather than fixing it right away. K-Raider NL 05:06, 9 April 2012 (PDT)

We reflect the description as it appears in-game; if Valve doesn't change it, neither do we. r4wrzSwagmaster 05:08, 9 April 2012 (PDT)

Quote at top

Isn't it "I guarantee you won't go angry"? I've noticed this a long time ago, never bothered to comment, but it sounds like 'angry' in the movie ot me, and 'angry' makes sense to me. EvilJackCarver 12:17, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

It's just the Sniper's accent that causes him to not pronounce the 'h' in hungry. Blazios 12:20, 25 June 2012 (PDT)

Possible trivia piece?

While messing around in Source Filmmaker, I saw what seems to be a bruise on Sniper's right thumbnail. Is this real, or were my textures screwing up? If it is real, is it interesting enough to put in the trivia? Sigoshi 21:10, 21 November 2012 (PST)

Care to take a screen shot? I'd like to see as well. (SFM won't open for me D:) Ashes 21:14, 21 November 2012 (PST)

Trivia/Bug

One of his achievements Is based off a movie I think its enemy at the gate, also the sniper wears 1 glove in 3rd person but 2 in 1st, this may be a possible bugMonkeyking240 15:13, 11 April 2013 (PDT)

Please make a new topic and not under a discussion that ended 2 years ago. Secondly, Those aren't notable for either trivia or bug. Ashes 15:19, 11 April 2013 (PDT)

Darwin's Danger Shield special abilities are incorrect

It shows the +25 hp but not the bullet damage resistance or the vulnerability to explosive damage that was added in the last patch. I'd update it myself but I can't figure out how to edit the line Class weapons table sniper secondary. The stats show correctly on the Danger Shield's own page. Spider5799 (talk) 12:58, 24 July 2013 (PDT)

Updated to show the actual update change. Thanks Ashes (talk) 13:55, 24 July 2013 (PDT)

His name revealed

It's Mick Mundy, as revealed by the Gaming Heads Sniper statuette.

Evidence 1 Evidence 2

Suggest addition to article.

--Jojje (talk) 07:18, 17 October 2013 (PDT)

I think there's the similar issue with Medic name and Valve confirmed that it's not official name. I think this one is the same. All we can do is wait for response from Valve. Rikka Takanashi (talk) • (contributions) 08:17, 17 October 2013 (PDT)

yeah that's fair enough --Jojje (talk) 08:23, 17 October 2013 (PDT)

Trivia-worthy?

There's a bit of detail on the sniper's thumb, explained here: http://bit.ly/JGGkNO (original source, saoi for the yaoi) Redjarman (talk) 20:03, 7 January 2014 (PST)

Seems more less speculation really. Unless valve says otherwise, It's not notable. Ashes (talk) 22:50, 7 January 2014 (PST)

possible movie reference

Okay, so the sniper's name is listed as "Mr. Mundy" and supposedly his full name is "Mick Mundy" I think this is most likely a reference to "Mick Dundee" from "Crocodile Dundee"

Is the name "Mick Mundy" official? If it is, I think the connection is trivia worthy. --PyroGothNerd (talk) 18:49, 19 February 2014 (PST)

The name Mick is not official - COBALT 18:50, 19 February 2014 (PST)

Sorry for the late response. Anyhow, Mundy could still be a reference to Crocodile Dundy...if you guys want to wait and see, though, I totally understand, with all the name confusion that's been going on for most of the characters. Maybe we'll find out his official name in the next TF2 comic, since Ms. Pauling, Spy, and Demoman are going to find him. --PyroGothNerd (talk) 05:21, 10 April 2014 (PDT)

sniper player model

has anyone noticed that the sniper has a cut on his cheek that happened in the meet the spy clip were the spy and the sniper had a fight and the spy cut him I just thought people haven't seen it that's all Acemillion (talk) 02:11, 8 November 2014 (PST)

That's literally the first thing in the trivia section Redjarman (talk) 07:19, 8 November 2014 (PST)

Sniper response reference

The response "This is going to be a real piece o' piss, you bloody fruit shop owners" is a reference to a shooting in Australia where a sniper targeted people who ran fruit shops. I don't know much about it, but this should probably be in trivia. I will not add it in because once again, I don't know much about it and it would be too vague.

Octorock888 (talk) 03:37, 14 January 2015 (PST)

Missing 2D Image of player

Basically title. I would put a Missing Image Tag here but I couldn't remember how to so yep. If someone could find the image or at least be able to put the tag up that would be great. -- CoreDude98 (talk) 15:41, 16 April 2015 (PDT)

The image existed, but the infobox didn't point to it. I've readded the image now. --Omolong (talk) 15:56, 16 April 2015 (PDT)

Thanks man :D I didn't want to try and change anything just in case I destroyed something. -- CoreDude98 (talk) 00:22, 18 April 2015 (PDT)

Sniper's Birthplace (Clarification)

I found a lot of users debating the birthplace of The Sniper in the edit history. Before you edit, I just want to say this: The Sniper was born in New Zealand. He was raised in Australia. Here is proof (Pages 75-89). Got it? Thank you. Dan9er (talk) 13:24, 25 July 2015 (PDT)

Weapon descriptions

"Friendly Pyros and Soldiers with the Righteous Bison and Engineers with the Pomson 6000 can light arrows to add fire damage." sounds odd, should it be changed to "Friendly Pyros, Soldiers, and Engineers can light arrows to add fire damage with any Flamethrower, the Righteous Bison, and the Pomson 600" or "Friendly Pyros, Soldiers, and Engineers can light arrows with any Flamethrower, the Righteous Bison, and the Pomson 600 to add fire damage"?

Also, the Sydney Sleeper has both the stats "Scoped shots extinguish flames on wielder and allied players." and "Unlike the Jarate, this cannot extinguish burning allies on hit". Is the second stat an error or referring to the fact that you can't extinguish with a noscope, which is already stated in the first one? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by DrAntagonist (talk) • (contribs)

Sydney sleeper update

the weapon information on the Sydney sleeper on this page give incorrect information about jarate not working on player. with the new update the Sydney sleeper now extinguished allies so it should be changed.

Redindy (talk) 09:11, 4 August 2016 (PDT)

The page looks correct to me. What do you mean it "works on player?" -- Dr. Scaphandre 09:16, 4 August 2016 (PDT)

The Sniper and his sex life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkSXpe6iaPY&feature=youtu.be Lowrie says that the Sniper likes Bangkok prostitutes and sheep. There's a transcript hanging around somewhere but O can't link. Honestly though, I think I know where he figures in Hale's little comment on "Drunks, Defectives, Sex criminals and War criminals". Harley Quinn hyenaholic (talk) 14:42, 27 September 2016 (PDT)

Until we get official confirmation by Valve, leave that out and consider it unofficial. Same reason why we don't say his first name is Mick. -- Dr. Scaphandre 15:46, 27 September 2016 (PDT)

Seriously? Harley Quinn hyenaholic, you really think that should be here? O_o McRela 15:51, 27 September 2016 (PDT)

I know it's frikkin' hilarious, is what it is, and nothing in canon has contradicted it yet. I also know that this Wiki is hideously argumentative about what counts as canon. I mean, the VA says in an IC interview that his character likes sheep, and yet because Valve personally hasn't said it, people say it might possibly not be true and we can't say it's true. How do you think Fanon becomes Canon? Harley Quinn hyenaholic (talk) 15:52, 27 September 2016 (PDT)

Goes back to what I said on why we don't say his first name is Mick despite his action figure saying it is. We don't have official confirmation by Valve, and as far as we're concerned Lowrie could've just been joking. -- Dr. Scaphandre 15:58, 27 September 2016 (PDT)

Well yeah, it kind of IS the point that he's joking. This is Valve and Team Fortress 2 though, which is a place where fanon is kind enough to become canon and it wouldn't have become canon if we didn't joke about it first. Heh... The best way to make it canon would be to make a hat that the Sniper bought in Bangkok. Or possibly a jacket made of wool that reminds him of his first girlfriend, at least in my opinion. Harley Quinn hyenaholic (talk) 16:27, 27 September 2016 (PDT)

Even so, the wiki is not a place for fanon. We're the "Official" wiki after all, and we rarely make pages about fan content. So until it becomes official, leave it out. -- Dr. Scaphandre 16:32, 27 September 2016 (PDT)

What the heck is going on with Sniper's description?

It says "Half rugged outdoorsman, half alien observer, this taciturn strip of beef jerky has spent the better part of his life alone in the bush, slow baking under the Australian sun." Is this really the official description of the Sniper? Is he really beef jerky? Graysocks (talk) 06:43, 3 November 2017 (PDT)

It's not the official description from the official TF2 website, but it is the description on the Sniper trading card to the right.

Strangely, some articles (e.g. Scout, Soldier) use the TF2 website's description (I think - I did update the Soldier's bio but maybe it was in fact from the trading card, I didn't check), while the Pyro's and maybe others (too lazy to check) use or even cite the trading card as the source. You could either add a reference to the Sniper page or combine the current bio with the official one from the website, like Demoman did. ⇒ Anyar (talk/contributions/giveaway) 14:58, 3 November 2017 (PDT)

That's some interesting character description, at least we know it's real. Anyways, I don't think I can actually edit the sniper page, as it was locked or something. Graysocks (talk) 22:56, 3 November 2017 (PDT)

“

And for a man who’s been in the sun all my life, my skin is pretty soft. I should be beef jerky! — Colonel Sanders

”

Graysocks, know your meme (skip down to Online Reaction).

The description is mostly colorful metaphor (except, obviously, for the half alien part; that turned out to be spot on), which is the point of most of the Valve class bios, mostly written by "old guys". Mikado282 (talk) 03:42, 4 November 2017 (PDT)

Sniper's Garand Thumb

Fun fact;

If you open the hwm sniper model (from tf_movies) in SFM, and look at his right thumb, you can see that it has a different colour on the nails than all of the other nails on the other fingers! This is a reference to the "Garand Thumb", an accident that involves getting your thumb pressed when reloading a M1 Garand.

Hit Reg

Sniper has a confusing hitreg.If you scope really fast into someones head and shoot instantly it doesn't count as a headshot.Also if you flick really hard sometimes it hits the head without it being even close to the player. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by ThinkingSeal (talk) • (contribs)

Every primary weapons penetrate allies

I think this page miss an important note. Every primary weapons (including every sniper rifles, bows...) using the scope or not can penetrate allies. --Zatiranyk (talk) 13:43, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Sniper’s Motto

Wouldn’t a more accurate motto be either “Be polite, be efficient, have a plan to kill everyone you meet” or “professionals have standards” instead of “the pink cloud of death”? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by FlithySniperMain (talk) • (contribs)

The motto seems to be taken from the Trailer 2 intro card for the Sniper which does indeed say "Pink Cloud of Death" for some strange reason. 404UNF ^(talk) 05:21, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Please sign your comments using ~~~~
GrampaSwood (talk) 07:02, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Hitman's Heatmaker Error

Under the Damage Range, Base damage is listed as 50 - 150. Damage range for bodyshots (listed as Base) should be listed as 40 - 120. Kursk (talk) 02:44, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, changed now.
GrampaSwood (talk) 10:41, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Bug/trivia about scoping

I know people know about this but we should add the inability to shoot soldiers as they walk backwards while looking up, or add the bug that you can shoot through the bottom of a player. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by The Fiend (talk) • (contribs) 22:53 CEST

Again, sign your comments using ~~~~. Also, use the "add topic" section at the top to add a new topic, it's very confusing if you put the topic somewhere randomly in-between them all.

That shouldn't really be noted, it's not worthy and it's also not related to the class of Sniper (it shouldn't be noted anywhere else either, it should be obvious if you hide your head you can't be headshot.) The second one, I'm not entirely sure what you mean (but is also not related to Sniper himself).
GrampaSwood (talk) 21:01, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Addition to Trivia - Sniper's Thumb

This has been talked about before over the years, but never has been added to trivia. On Sniper's right hand, his thumbnail is blackened and bruised. This is due to occasions when the bolt of a rifle, in this case the Sniper Rifle, slams onto a thumb when reloading too fast, causing major bruising. Apologies if there's a valid reason as to why this hasn't been added, but this is such an incredible detail that I think is worth noting. Irb (talk) 15:11, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

As far as I know, this only really happens with an M1 Garand as I see no way a regular bolt would slam on your hands that way (because a bolt is a manual reload, whereas a Garand can slam shut if you're not holding it back, where the thumb then gets hit). But as for including it, I personally don't really mind. It's a neat detail and on the same level as the cheek cut.
GrampaSwood (talk) 15:58, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Deadlink in trivia

The link to the TF2 teaser is dead. This appears to be a suitable alternative. Raegi (talk) 12:57, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Replaced it with the Valve link.
| s | GrampaSwood (talk) 13:02, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

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