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{{hatnote|(Rough, rough, draft; open for comment)}}
 
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Under this '''Community topics notability assessment project''', all preexisting custom maps are systematically assessed for notability according to the [[Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability guidelines]] (Policy).
 
Under this '''Community topics notability assessment project''', all preexisting custom maps are systematically assessed for notability according to the [[Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability guidelines]] (Policy).
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== Project Objectives ==
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{| class="wikitable grid"
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! class="header" style="background: #0080FF; color: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #333;" colspan="2" | Project Objectives
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |Assess notability keep/remove assessment of all present Community topic pages.
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |{{c|not done}}
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |Complete tags and documentation of kept Community topic pages.
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |{{c|not done}}
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |​Remove non-notable Community topics from the Main Space; and, remove non-notable Community topic pages from Main Space categories; possibly requiring modification to common templates.
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |{{c|not done}}
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== Notice Board ==
 
== Notice Board ==
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== Project Tasks ==
 
== Project Tasks ==
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |Confirm and establish the Category tree.
 
| style="border:1px solid #333;" |Confirm and establish the Category tree.
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |{{c|not done}}
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |{{c|done}} [[:Category:Community topics]]
 
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |Confirm the notability tags.
 
| style="border:1px solid #333;" |Confirm the notability tags.
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |{{c|not done}}
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |{{c|ongoing}} Pending Policy approval.
 
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |Tag and Form lists of all present Community topics pages for assessment, prioritizing Maps and Events.
 
| style="border:1px solid #333;" |Tag and Form lists of all present Community topics pages for assessment, prioritizing Maps and Events.
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |{{c|not done}}
 
| style="border:1px solid #333;" |{{c|not done}}
 
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== Assessments ==
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{| class="wikitable grid"
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! class="header" style="background: #0080FF; color: #FFFFFF; border:1px solid #333;" colspan="2" | List of Assessment  Records
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" | [[Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability assessment project/Community event assessments|Community event assessments]]
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" | {{c|ongoing}}
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" | [[Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability assessment project/Custom map assessments|Custom map assessments]]
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" | {{c|not done}}
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== Tags ==
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{{hatnote|See [[Team_Fortress_Wiki:Community_topics_notability_guidelines#Tags_and_assessment_process|Tags]].}}
  
 
=== Non-Notability (Delete) tag instructions ===  
 
=== Non-Notability (Delete) tag instructions ===  
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{{hatnote|This presently describes a process different from the broad assessments process and requires resolution.}}
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Process for applying notability [[:Template:Delete|Delete tags]] to Community topics:
 
Process for applying notability [[:Template:Delete|Delete tags]] to Community topics:
 
* Remember, deleting ''any'' page for ''any'' reason page ''is a process''; Tag the page, discuss the tag, close the discussion. The result is not required to be deletion. Consensus should determine results, keep, delete, move, improve, etc.  
 
* Remember, deleting ''any'' page for ''any'' reason page ''is a process''; Tag the page, discuss the tag, close the discussion. The result is not required to be deletion. Consensus should determine results, keep, delete, move, improve, etc.  
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* Deletion for non-notability should have that reason stated; e.g., "This Community topic page is nominated for deletion for [[linkTBD|lack of notability]]. Please, discuss under the [[linkTBD|Notability topic for the page]]."
 
* Deletion for non-notability should have that reason stated; e.g., "This Community topic page is nominated for deletion for [[linkTBD|lack of notability]]. Please, discuss under the [[linkTBD|Notability topic for the page]]."
  
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== Past discussions ==
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The main issue is the needed policy for inclusion/exclusion of Custom maps
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* 2011-2018: [[Talk:Custom maps]]
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* 2020 late-Summer: [[Team Fortress Wiki talk:Policies/Community content notability guidelines|Talk:Community content notability guidelines]]
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* 2019 late-Summer: [[Team Fortress Wiki:Discussion/Archive 32#Regarding pages on custom maps, competitions, MVM missions, and such|Talk:Regarding pages on custom maps, competitions, MVM missions, and such]]
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* 2020-2021: [[Team Fortress Wiki talk:Policies/Community content notability guidelines]]
  
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== TBD Headings ==
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== Resources ==
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* [[User:Mikado282/Player-Map statistics|Player-Map statistics]]
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:: A catalog of resources for measuring popularity of Community maps
  
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===[[User:Mikado282/Sandbox/Community_content_notability_guidelines#Tags|Tags]]===
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* [[Team Fortress Wiki talk:Policies/Community content notability guidelines#Glossary: Official versus Unreleased content, et al|Glossary: Official versus Unreleased content, et al]]
  
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===[[User:Mikado282/Sandbox/Community_content_notability_guidelines#Index|Index]]===
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* [[Team Fortress Wiki talk:Policies/Community content notability guidelines#Accuracy of teamwork.tf statitics|Accuracy of teamwork.tf statitics]]
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* History of guidelines
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:: Measurably precise to the Valve community server list; but, it has been suggested that there is a large amount of community servers (hosting community content) that cannot be measured by the Valve community server list. This is to say, rather than overstating the influence of Community content on Community servers, teamwork.tf actually may ''understate'' activity on Community servers.
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* History of discussions
 
  
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===[[User:Mikado282/Sandbox/Community_content_notability_guidelines#Tasks|Tasks]]===
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* [[User:Mikado282/Sandbox/Custom map study 2020|Custom map study 2020]]
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:: An inventory of all maps in the Custom category ''at that time''. There was a surprising amount of low-notability maps in place since around 2011.
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etc.
 
  
 
== Category Tree ==
 
== Category Tree ==
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* [[:Category:Community topics]]
 
* [[:Category:Community topics]]
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** [[:Category:Community topics pending assessment]]
 
** [[:Category:Community events]]
 
** [[:Category:Community events]]
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** [[:Category:Custom maps]] ( subcategory indicates the notability basis)
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*** [[:Category:Community April Fools events]]
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*** [[:Category:Community event maps]]
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*** [[:Category:Mapping contests]]
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*** [[:Category:Community competition maps]] (winning entry, not competitive map)
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*** [[:Category:Fan updates]]
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*** [[:Category:Community original variant maps]]
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** [[:Category:Custom maps]]
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*** [[:Category:Historic community maps]]
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** [[:Category:Custom Mann vs. Machine]]
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*** [[:Category:Legacy maps]] (in case we want to keep any otherwise non-notable that have been on the wiki "from the beginning")
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*** [[:Category:Custom Mann vs. Machine missions]]
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** [[:Category:Community missions]] ( or whatever actually conforms to the statements in the Policy)
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** [[:Category:Mapping content packs]]
 
** [[:Category:Mods]]
 
** [[:Category:Mods]]

Revision as of 12:56, 16 September 2021

(Rough, rough, draft; open for comment)

Under this Community topics notability assessment project, all preexisting custom maps are systematically assessed for notability according to the Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability guidelines (Policy).

Project Objectives

Project Objectives
Assess notability keep/remove assessment of all present Community topic pages. Pictogram cross.png Not done
Complete tags and documentation of kept Community topic pages. Pictogram cross.png Not done
​Remove non-notable Community topics from the Main Space; and, remove non-notable Community topic pages from Main Space categories; possibly requiring modification to common templates. Pictogram cross.png Not done


Notice Board

Notice Board
As quickly as practical, tag the Community topics pages we broadly agree to keep as "keep" (notable) and delete the ones we broadly agree to delete. With this done:

1) Editors can fix the style and quality issues of the ones we keep without concern of the effort being "wasted". The question of notability should no longer delay application of style and qualify.
2) The presence of wildly non-notable pages no longer interpreted as a permission slip to add more.
3) The project may then focus on the "middle ground" where opinions of notability need some resolution.


Project Tasks

Project Tasks
Field open issues with the Policy. Pictogram cross.png Not done
Confirm and establish the Category tree. Pictogram tick.png Done Category:Community topics
Confirm the notability tags. Pictogram wait.png Ongoing Pending Policy approval.
Tag and Form lists of all present Community topics pages for assessment, prioritizing Maps and Events.
A list of all (maps at least) Custom topics is needed. Something along this line was created here: Custom map study 2020 (it may be out-of-date)
 Pictogram cross.png Not done
Group similar Community topics pages for collective assessment. Pictogram cross.png Not done
Open discussions in individual subpages of Team Fortress Wiki talk:Community topics notability assessment project. Pictogram cross.png Not done

Assessments

List of Assessment Records
Community event assessments Pictogram wait.png Ongoing
Custom map assessments Pictogram cross.png Not done

Tags

See Tags.

Non-Notability (Delete) tag instructions

This presently describes a process different from the broad assessments process and requires resolution.

Process for applying notability Delete tags to Community topics:

  • Remember, deleting any page for any reason page is a process; Tag the page, discuss the tag, close the discussion. The result is not required to be deletion. Consensus should determine results, keep, delete, move, improve, etc.
  • If you feel the topic does not meet the Notability requirements for inclusion in this wiki, then locate or create the Notability section in the topic's Talk page and state the case, and Delete-tag the page for potential non-notability.
  • Deletion for non-notability should have that reason stated; e.g., "This Community topic page is nominated for deletion for lack of notability. Please, discuss under the Notability topic for the page."

Past discussions

The main issue is the needed policy for inclusion/exclusion of Custom maps

Resources

A catalog of resources for measuring popularity of Community maps
Measurably precise to the Valve community server list; but, it has been suggested that there is a large amount of community servers (hosting community content) that cannot be measured by the Valve community server list. This is to say, rather than overstating the influence of Community content on Community servers, teamwork.tf actually may understate activity on Community servers.
An inventory of all maps in the Custom category at that time. There was a surprising amount of low-notability maps in place since around 2011.

Category Tree

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