User talk:MCandRBfan

Hello, MCandRBfan!

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-- WelcomeBOT (talk) 02:28, 5 December 2017 (PST)

Updates as page content.

Regarding the recent Scout Robot and Heavy Robot edits. Changes to game elements are generally not written in to pages, as, best explained, it clutters the articles. Yes, the December 6, 2013 Patch just says "Rebalanced Empire Escalation." I do not know where to put the information you have researched about the details of the Empire Escalation rebalance, if anywhere in the wiki, but I do not think it is Trivia. Mikado282 (talk) 14:05, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

alright, noted. --MCandRBfan (talk) 14:14, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Not picking on you.

I am not picking on you. I monitor the Recent Changes/en. Normally, if I see grammatical errors in an edit, I go ahead and scan the whole article, if I haven already -- haven't the time for that these days, though. Mikado282 (talk) 22:53, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

I don't really mind actually, I'm just happy to know someone else that cares about MvM and helping me to improve. After all this is the TF2 WIKI and ?action=history exists.

Lately I haven't got more info I want to edit about yet --MCandRBfan (talk) 12:32, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

BTW, use colons (:) to inset replies. Also, do you use Preview before saving your edit? Mikado282 (talk) 03:32, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Ah ok, I only use Preview if I'm not confident the edit will be perfect. (Trying out new code, edits with many text)--MCandRBfan (talk) 15:15, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

As perfect as Anyar might say I am, I use Preview repeatedly on the same edit. Some may take your repeated edits on a page to be a lack of Preview. I have checked -- most of the time, subsequent edits you make to the same page in the same session are to different sections, not corrections of edit mistakes, so. Mikado282 (talk) 23:31, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Ok, I will do that in the future. --MCandRBfan (talk) 02:03, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Originally

What is your source on the original intent of the Hyper League Scouts and Wave 3's Pyro-bots? Mikado282 (talk) 02:46, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

I checked the mission's code to make a Pre-Nerf Empire Escalation Mission. Then I saw these codes. Pictures coming up soon--MCandRBfan (talk) 11:55, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Here are the pictures. Taken in a mobile phone cause I'm not using the PC yet, sorry.:

The first two trivia points seem to be extractions of hidden content from present code, which seems to be fair game, although I would wonder if it's more unused content rather than trivia, but I am not worried about that. The last two trivia points seemed to be descriptions of prior content replaced by patches, which is not necessarily cricket for trivia. What caught my attention was the term "originally", which had me wondering if a workshop page was a source. I see that Tark has edited this topic so maybe he's cool with it, but maybe he was looking at something else. I appreciate the effort, but I did not need the pictures, so, if you don't see the need to have them visible, you can hide them. Mikado282 (talk) 19:36, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Tthe last two points aren't from Pre-Nerf Empire Escalation, they were there when the mission was made public. This is a comparison of the old Empire Escalation and the new Empire Escalation Mission file. It's likely the dev wanted it to be that way but later changed plans.--MCandRBfan (talk) 00:31, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

(last three points, now) OK, thank you for the explanation. I am not particularly qualified technically here. You are comparing pre-release robot code with released code? Perhaps I am not familiar enough to understand the distinction between "Empire Escalation" and "Empire Escalation Mission", or what are the "old" and "new". Are you only comparing pre-release and release files? You may want to ask another opinion on this, but as I understand it, changes developers make before release is not particularly Trivia. Certainly, edits about pre-release changes made to Community maps have been reverted. YMMV WRT Valve dev content. Mikado282 (talk) 02:55, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Second half

The Pyro-bots in wave 3

Original design for wave 5 Hyper League Scouts

Something else I found and will edit about soon:

Demoman bots's original intention wave 3

--MCandRBfan (talk) 12:15, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Operation Memes vs Machines bot images

So I've seen all of your bot icon rips, and I'm wondering if you could get bot icon rips from the Memes vs Machines missions, like WelcomeToMyMine. BeingAwesom (talk · contribs) 14:21, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Alright, might do that when I have time. All icons may not be ripped today MCandRBfan (talk) 08:52, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Ok I ran into a problem so there may be very few icons ripped OR no icons ripped at all, I can teach you how to rip the icons, it's really easy

Do you know what exactly the problem is? BeingAwesom (talk · contribs) 12:03, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

The problem is that I don't have my laptop anymorr. I forgotten mines is now unusable because I accidentally spilled water on it back in December 2018. Though I asked some friends to help me export the bot icons, all of the bot icons won't be uploaded today though.

I uploaded almost all of the Memes Vs Machines event bot icons, 18 bot icons are yet to be exported so they may be uploaded tomorrow :)

Welcome to my mine

Thanks for making page for a mission that I (technicaly) co-created. I dont know why you did this but thanks
Also why did you delete me from creators please respond quicky
FiatSeicento 19:08, 8 August 2019 (UTC)FiatSeicento

Uh, because you don't have the gatebot role?

MCandRBfan (talk) 10:43, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Yeah but im still a co-creator. I got role removed because I did too less to get role (and mini drama), but im still co-creator. Also OneOfWonders doesnt have gatebot role too. Here's the annoucement with me as creator https://steamcommunity.com/groups/potatomvmservers#announcements/detail/1782771075735885615
14:52, 9 August 2019 (UTC)FiatSeicento

Wonders doesn't has a gatebot role? That's strange. In the advanced shiverpeak popfile, Wonders left her name in it so Wonders's name will stay. About yours, I'll ask the staff about this, as the event post is months old. MCandRBfan (talk) 08:27, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

I've been following this for a while now, and the staff really don't have anything to do with it. The initial announcement is enough to prove he is one of the creators, therefore his name stays.
GrampaSwood (talk) 08:30, 10 August 2019 (UTC)