Team Fortress Wiki:Discussion/Archive 30

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SO many 503 errors

I am getting 503 Errors every time I try to access a page on this wiki. I have to reload the page at least 4 times before I can finally access the page. Is this going to be fixed soon? --Joona (talk) 06:20, 26 January 2016 (PST)

Most likely not as Mousse is having a lot on his plate IRL. I also want to point out that the interface for those who don't know wiki markup is gone. -- Dr. Scaphandre 09:37, 26 January 2016 (PST)

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P.S Thanks for all translator Pancake 09:12, 29 February 2016 (PST)

Competitive Matchmaking

The beta is now open in an official group, and more passes are being distributed. I think it's time we start making the pages. -- Dr. Scaphandre 09:09, 3 March 2016 (PST)

A second note: If anyone has a Self Made item, or a Community item, Valve says you'll have automatic access to the Beta. As Beta Access is currently limited to only a few hundred people, anyone who can get on would be really helpful. -- Dr. Scaphandre 09:21, 3 March 2016 (PST)

Servers are really crappy (in random places) and there's barely anyone in queue, what more do you want? I'm happy to take screenshots of me waiting in queue if you like. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 10:14, 3 March 2016 (PST)

Images from winners screen and point distribution (gold, silver, bronze medals) would be nice. — The preceding assigned comment was added by Tark {Finish Him! ▪ Contribs} 10:32, 3 March 2016 (PST)

I could also talk with some people who have the pass to get those images. Right now I just want to get a basic skeleton going. -- Dr. Scaphandre 11:59, 3 March 2016 (PST)

Unless we can gather exactly 12 people with sparkleness, this will be very difficult. I only have a crappy screenshot of loading but nothing on winners (cause they left) Ashes (talk) 12:00, 3 March 2016 (PST)

Maybe we ould get B4nny to help. He was one of the first 60 to get a pass. -- Dr. Scaphandre 12:19, 3 March 2016 (PST)

I've just played one comp. game on stresstest. Here is screenshots for all that I've managed to snap: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/825002/TF2/tf2comp_stresstest2016-03-04.rar
Also, looks like comp. have unique loading screen. Irvitzer (talk) 19:20, 3 March 2016 (PST)

Ok, few more notes. Also, I've got a screenshot of main menu with 'Competitive (Stresstest!)' button.

• Spectating after death restricted to first person only; you can switch between team members, but can't go freeroam or look at map from camera points.
• Looks like there's no class restriction, at least for now: at some point our team had 4 Scouts, and we was steamrolled by 5 Soldiers.
• Ragdolls and gibs are forced on, no matter what you have in autoconfig. Irvitzer (talk) 11:27, 4 March 2016 (PST)

-- Dr. Scaphandre 08:43, 8 March 2016 (PST)

For Weapons page, should we add Beta/Unused weapons?

I wonder, should we add Unused/Beta weapons into the weapons list. In my opinion, some people would maybe want to learn more info of the unused weapons, like the Nail Gun. I already know the pages exist, but I feel that it confusing that they are hidden in the pages of the wiki... MikeMan2332 (talk) 14:36, 29 March 2016 (PDT)

I will look into making a directed link to that page under scout. If a moderator doesn't undo it, it would be safe to say you could add the other weapons' page and add a link to those weapons under the appropriate class. || twolfe's page || twolfe's talk page 06:06, 16 November 2016 (PST)

Hey, any updates about this "new" page, sorry for being late, is the page still up, or did the moderators undo it? Been gone for a long time, and I am sorry MikeMan2332 (talk) 19:42, 7 January 2017 (PDT)

I tried it, and it was undone. Had a talk Ashes(?, don't remember exactly) but they said that there is a whole page and you can search for it (I don't remember what you are supposed to search for). Paraphrasing, but yeah. Personally, unless I knew about it, I wouldn't have known. Brought this fact up, but didn't hear back. The debate is in purgatory at the moment. I would go onto the IRC channel and talk to the mods about it. || twolfe's page || twolfe's talk page 05:38, 9 January 2017 (PST)

Heyo. The weapons page was generally designed to show official weapons that are currently in the game that are obtainable. Adding the Unused/beta weapons in the list would mislead users into thinking there is a way to obtain it. We already have a page under Unused Content which gives a whole list. Some trivia edits under the class page like Scout has a link to the Nailgun. The most we can do is add a link to the Unused Content in the "See Also" section but that's about it. Ashes (talk) 05:48, 9 January 2017 (PST)

Famous People Related to TF2

I'm very new to contributing to this wiki and I recently just joined. Can someone explain to me why there are no pages regarding famous TF2 players (such as Youtubers) or in general those important to either the community and the game? Is there a rule against pages about people? It seems silly that the Official TF2 Wiki doesn't even have a page on GabeN. --ArguedOyster 14 April 2016

This falls under the community website guidelines. We do not create pages of famous youtubers or even valve staff. The TF2 Wiki is here to document about TF2 itself. We also don't make pages for youtuber as it will be taken advantage of by others to advertise. We've had issues with the past with community TF2 websites abusing the Wiki for such a purpose and we'd rather not have that repeated again. So as it stands,

pages for Youtubers/Valve staff including "Gaben" are a no-no. Ashes (talk) 19:14, 14 April 2016 (PDT)

Merging tournament medals

I wanted to ask about merging tournament medals into one page, or at least "categorizing" them into league pages.

Right now there are dozens of tournament medal pages, all are basically more or less copy-pasted. The information on every single one is identical. It seems very reasonable to me to merge them all into 1 page where one has a good overview without the need of cloned pages. — shots fired by: Nikno{Talk|Contribs} 14:06, 25 April 2016 (PDT)

I second this. We could just generally describe tournament medals and have each league in their own particular image box, and sorted by season. Scoottehbesht (talk) 11:46, 21 January 2017 (PST)

group infobox images

I was thinking that if a cosmetic has more than 3 classes it can be equipped on, it should just have a single class in the infobox.
I reckon if you put 4 or more classes in the image, it shrinks it down way too much. What is everyone else's opinions on this? 07:53, 9 June 2016 (PDT)

The visibility of certain details on a bigger image (because of more classes) depends on the size of the viewed item. It seems as this is already done for most items, there are only a few infobox images with more than 4 classes on it. I agree with your rule, better than the thumb rule we have now in my opinion. — shots fired by: Nikno {Talk | Contribs} 08:00, 9 June 2016 (PDT)

Yeah, coz with the all-father, I reckon it should just be a single class since putting 6 classes together would make it a tiny image 08:03, 9 June 2016 (PDT)

An idiot Erased my work

Ve added the dead of Night and pass pin to the all class cosmetics list and some idiot has e rased that. I wAnna know way — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hat1 (talk) • (contribs)

Read your talk page. Also insulting me is not the nice way to talk with each other, right? Rikka Takanashi (talk) • (contributions) 06:18, 14 July 2016 (PDT)

Removed Content Template

Similar to the Beta Maps and Custom Map templates, there should be a template for content that has been removed from the game, such as the Saucers, Mysterious Treasures, and the recent removal of Quick Play. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dr. Scaphandre (talk) • (contribs)

I've finished and created a template that I think will do the job great: Template:Removed content -- Dr. Scaphandre 20:17, 28 July 2016 (PDT)

Should we make a new page for Heavy vs Pyro event?

The event has ended, and we still did not included information about it. Atleast something on Meet your Match page would be good. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Miomiowski (talk) • (contribs)

Please don't start 2 discussions on the same topic and don't forget to sign your comments using 4 tildes (~~~~). — shots fired by: Nikno {Talk | Contribs} 09:20, 27 August 2016 (PDT)

To answer your question: No. The event has ended yes, however there is very little information to warrant a page. We only create pages once official content has been added to the game and is confirmed ingame.

For the time being, if you wish to create a page, please do it on your user sub-page. Ashes (talk) 11:03, 27 August 2016 (PDT)

 Disagree A page for it is not really necessary since it was so small. We didn't do a page for the Soldier vs Demoman war. Just write a quick summary paragraph on the MYM update page, just like what was done for the WAR! Update. -- Dr. Scaphandre 11:06, 27 August 2016 (PDT)

Coverage of the Insomnia58 Team Fortress 2 Open (And a discussion on future TF2 tournament coverage)

So since Valve posted a blog entry on this and even sent off a system message about the tournament, we may need to talk about this. Problem is, I don't know if they're gonna do this for future TF2 tournaments. We may have to start making more competitive and tournament pages as Valve seems to be shifting focus to the eSports scene of TF2. -- Dr. Scaphandre 22:49, 27 August 2016 (PDT)

Crossover games

I've noticed that Team Fortress 2 has been getting a lot of crossover stuff in other games. First in 2013 we had the Meet the Medic mission in Surgeon Simulator, then in 2015 when I Am Bread came out it got a TF2 mission as well where you were a loaf of bread trying to get back to Heavy's Sandvich. And now recently the Early Access F2P Paladins has a character skin of the Engineer. However, we don't have any coverage of these games even though they have TF2 content in them while not necessarily having their content in TF2. The only game that does have coverage is Surgeon Simulator, and I have a feeling more games will arrive with crossover content for them. We should discuss how we should handle pages for other games because of this, and maybe make a nav template for them. -- Dr. Scaphandre 16:19, 2 October 2016 (PDT)

From what I have seen, the information is usually a small blurb. This then is put in the trivia section of the appropriate page. From my understanding of what you wrote, I don't think we need a full page of info for one sentence of material. || twolfe's page || twolfe's talk page 06:01, 16 November 2016 (PST)

Custom Sets?

Hello, I'm relatively new to the wiki and was wondering if custom pages (that were still TF2-related) could be created. By this, I mean pages such as a list of community-created/unofficial sets. I know the "Community Fads" page exists, which is why I'm asking. Thanks!

SkyTBM; inexperienced TF2 Coach, seeking out for the greater good. (talk) 13:35, 7 December 2016 (PST)

So, for example, do you mean creating pages for item sets currently only present in the Workshop? If yes, I don't think we're allowing those pages as their notability is extremely low and would allow the wiki to be flooded with such articles. You can still create those pages in your own user namespace (name scheme User:SkyTBM/<TitleHere>), of course.

{ TidB | t | c | wt } 13:50, 7 December 2016 (PST)

I kind-of mean that. What I'm saying is not sets from the workshop, but just sets that people have created. For example "The Hoovy" is a commonly used one for friendly heavies, and it consists of the Sandvich, Holiday Punch and Tough Guy's Toque. Also, I have already created my own personal page (User:SkyTBM/sandbox) for this, if I cannot make it into a full page.

SkyTBM; inexperienced TF2 Coach, seeking out for the greater good. (talk) 15:18, 7 December 2016 (PST)

Something unofficial, like a group of people using an item set, is perfect for your userpage. If it ever gains significant notability, it can go onto the Community fads page. Darkid « Talk — Contribs » 15:36, 7 December 2016 (PST)

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