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Under this '''Community topics notability assessment project''', all preexisting custom maps are systematically assessed for notability according to the [[Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability guidelines]] (Policy).
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{{hatnote|See [[Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability guidelines]].}}
  
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== Notice Board ==
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Under the '''Community topics notability assessment project''', all preexisting custom content are systematically assessed for notability in accordance with the [[Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability guidelines]] (Policy).
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== Project objectives ==
 
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" | Assess the notability of and decide whether to retain or remove all current community topic pages.
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" | Complete the tagging and documentation of retained community topic pages.
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" | As quickly as practical, tag the Community topics pages we broadly agree to keep as "keep"  (notable) and delete the ones we broadly agree to delete. With this done:<br/>
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" | Remove non-notable community topics from the Main Space and adjust Main Space categories as needed, possibly requiring modifications to common templates.
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1) Editors can fix the style and quality issues of the ones we keep without concern of the effort being "wasted". ''The question of notability should no longer delay application of style and qualify.''<br/>
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2) The presence of wildly non-notable pages no longer interpreted as a permission slip to add more.<br/>
 
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3) The project may then focus on the "middle ground" where opinions of notability need some resolution.
 
 
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== Project Tasks ==
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== Notice board ==
 
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |Field open issues with the Policy.
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" | As quickly as practical, tag the Community topics pages we broadly agree to keep as "keep" (notable) and delete the ones we broadly agree to delete. With this done:<br/>
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |{{c|not done}}
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1) Editors can fix style and quality issues in the retained pages without concerns about "wasted effort". ''The question of notability should no longer delay application of style and qualify.''<br/>
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2) The presence of highly non-notable pages will no longer serve as an excuse to add more.<br/>
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |Confirm and establish the Category tree.
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3) The project can then focus on cases where opinions regarding notability require some resolution.
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |{{c|not done}}
 
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |Confirm the notability tags.
 
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |{{c|not done}}
 
 
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |Tag and Form lists of all present Community topics pages for assessment, prioritizing Maps and Events.
 
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: A list of all (maps at least) Custom topics is needed.  Something along this line was created here: [[User:Mikado282/Sandbox/Custom map study 2020|Custom map study 2020]] (it may be out-of-date)
 
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |{{c|not done}}
 
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |Group similar Community topics pages for collective assessment.
 
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |Open discussions in individual subpages of [[Team Fortress Wiki talk:Community topics notability assessment project]].
 
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |{{c|not done}}
 
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== Assessment Records ==
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== Assessments ==
 
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" | [[Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability assessment project/Community event assessments|Community event assessments]]
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |[[Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability assessment project/Community event assessments|Community event assessments]]
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" |[[Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability assessment project/Custom map assessments|Custom map assessments]]
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| style="border:1px solid #333;" | [[Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability assessment project/Custom content assessments|Custom content assessments]] (mods, gamemodes, "misc." custom content)
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== Tags ==
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{{hatnote|For more information on tags and the assessment process, see [[Team_Fortress_Wiki:Community_topics_notability_guidelines#Tags_and_assessment_process|Tags and assessment process]].}}
  
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=== Non-Notability (Delete) tag instructions ===
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{{hatnote|This presently describes a process different from the broad assessments process and requires resolution.}}
  
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=== Non-Notability (Delete) tag instructions ===
 
 
Process for applying notability [[:Template:Delete|Delete tags]] to Community topics:
 
Process for applying notability [[:Template:Delete|Delete tags]] to Community topics:
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* Remember, deleting ''any'' page for ''any'' reason page ''is a process''; Tag the page, discuss the tag, close the discussion. The result is not required to be deletion. Consensus should determine results, keep, delete, move, improve, etc.  
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* Remember, deleting ''any'' Community topic page for ''any'' reason ''is a process''; tag the page, discuss the tag, close the discussion. The result ''is not'' required to be deletion. Consensus should determine results, keep, delete, move, improve, etc.  
 
* If you feel the topic does not meet the Notability requirements for inclusion in this wiki, then locate or create the Notability section in the topic's Talk page and state the case, and Delete-tag the page for potential non-notability.
 
* If you feel the topic does not meet the Notability requirements for inclusion in this wiki, then locate or create the Notability section in the topic's Talk page and state the case, and Delete-tag the page for potential non-notability.
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* Deletion for non-notability should have that reason stated; e.g., "This Community topic page is nominated for deletion for [[linkTBD|lack of notability]]. Please, discuss under the [[linkTBD|Notability topic for the page]]."
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* Deletion for non-notability should have that reason stated; e.g., "This Community topic page is nominated for deletion for [[Team_Fortress_Wiki:Community_topics_notability_guidelines|lack of notability]]. Please, discuss under the Notability topic for the page."
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== TBD Headings ==
 
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===[[User:Mikado282/Sandbox/Community_content_notability_guidelines#Tags|Tags]]===
 
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{{hatnote|If you have drafted Community content/topic tags, please, link them |[[User:Mikado282/Sandbox#Community_topic_tags|here]].}}
 
  
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===[[User:Mikado282/Sandbox/Community_content_notability_guidelines#Index|Index]]===
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== Past discussions ==
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* History of guidelines
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The primary issue revolves around the policy for inclusion/exclusion of Custom maps:
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* History of  discussions
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* 2011-2018: [[Talk:Custom maps]]
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* 2020 late-Summer: [[Team Fortress Wiki talk:Policies/Community content notability guidelines|Talk:Community content notability guidelines]]
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* 2019 late-Summer: [[Team Fortress Wiki:Discussion/Archive 32#Regarding pages on custom maps, competitions, MVM missions, and such|Talk:Regarding pages on custom maps, competitions, MVM missions, and such]]
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* 2020-2021: [[Team Fortress Wiki talk:Policies/Community content notability guidelines]]
  
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===[[User:Mikado282/Sandbox/Community_content_notability_guidelines#Tasks|Tasks]]===
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== Resources ==
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* [[User:Mikado282/Player-Map statistics|Mikado's Player-Map statistics]]
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:: A catalog of resources for measuring popularity of Community maps
  
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* [[User:Mikado282/Sandbox/Custom map study 2020|Mikado's Custom map study 2020]]
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:: An inventory of all maps in the Custom category ''at that time''. There was a surprising amount of low-notability maps in place since around 2011.
  
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* [[Team Fortress Wiki talk:Policies/Community content notability guidelines#Glossary: Official versus Unreleased content, et al|Glossary: Official versus Unreleased content, et al]]
  
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== Category Tree ==
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* [[Team Fortress Wiki talk:Policies/Community content notability guidelines#Accuracy of teamwork.tf statitics|Accuracy of teamwork.tf statitics]]
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:: Measurably precise to the Valve community server list; but, it has been suggested that there is a large amount of community servers (hosting community content) that cannot be measured by the Valve community server list. This is to say, rather than overstating the influence of Community content on Community servers, teamwork.tf actually may ''understate'' activity on Community servers.
  
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== Category tree ==
 
* [[:Category:Community topics]]
 
* [[:Category:Community topics]]
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** [[:Category:Community topics pending assessment]]
 
** [[:Category:Community events]]
 
** [[:Category:Community events]]
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** [[:Category:Custom maps]] ( subcategory indicates the notability basis)
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*** [[:Category:Community April Fools events]]
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*** [[:Category:Mapping contests]]
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*** [[:Category:Community competition maps]] (winning entry, not competitive map)
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*** [[:Category:Fan updates]]
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*** [[:Category:Community original variant maps]]
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** [[:Category:Custom maps]]
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*** [[:Category:Historic community maps]]
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** [[:Category:Custom Mann vs. Machine]]
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*** [[:Category:Legacy maps]] (in case we want to keep any otherwise non-notable that have been on the wiki "from the beginning")
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*** [[:Category:Custom Mann vs. Machine missions]]
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** [[:Category:Community missions]] ( or whatever actually conforms to the statements in the Policy)
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** [[:Category:Mapping content packs]]
 
** [[:Category:Mods]]
 
** [[:Category:Mods]]

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See Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability guidelines.

Under the Community topics notability assessment project, all preexisting custom content are systematically assessed for notability in accordance with the Team Fortress Wiki:Community topics notability guidelines (Policy).

Project objectives

Project Objectives
Assess the notability of and decide whether to retain or remove all current community topic pages. Pictogram wait.png Ongoing
Complete the tagging and documentation of retained community topic pages. Pictogram wait.png Ongoing
Remove non-notable community topics from the Main Space and adjust Main Space categories as needed, possibly requiring modifications to common templates. Pictogram wait.png Ongoing

Notice board

Notice board
As quickly as practical, tag the Community topics pages we broadly agree to keep as "keep" (notable) and delete the ones we broadly agree to delete. With this done:

1) Editors can fix style and quality issues in the retained pages without concerns about "wasted effort". The question of notability should no longer delay application of style and qualify.
2) The presence of highly non-notable pages will no longer serve as an excuse to add more.
3) The project can then focus on cases where opinions regarding notability require some resolution.

Assessments

List of assessment records
Community event assessments Pictogram comment.png Ongoing.
Custom map assessments Pictogram cross.png Not done
Custom content assessments (mods, gamemodes, "misc." custom content) Pictogram cross.png Not done

Tags

For more information on tags and the assessment process, see Tags and assessment process.

Non-Notability (Delete) tag instructions

This presently describes a process different from the broad assessments process and requires resolution.

Process for applying notability Delete tags to Community topics:

  • Remember, deleting any Community topic page for any reason is a process; tag the page, discuss the tag, close the discussion. The result is not required to be deletion. Consensus should determine results, keep, delete, move, improve, etc.
  • If you feel the topic does not meet the Notability requirements for inclusion in this wiki, then locate or create the Notability section in the topic's Talk page and state the case, and Delete-tag the page for potential non-notability.
  • Deletion for non-notability should have that reason stated; e.g., "This Community topic page is nominated for deletion for lack of notability. Please, discuss under the Notability topic for the page."

Past discussions

The primary issue revolves around the policy for inclusion/exclusion of Custom maps:

Resources

A catalog of resources for measuring popularity of Community maps
An inventory of all maps in the Custom category at that time. There was a surprising amount of low-notability maps in place since around 2011.
Measurably precise to the Valve community server list; but, it has been suggested that there is a large amount of community servers (hosting community content) that cannot be measured by the Valve community server list. This is to say, rather than overstating the influence of Community content on Community servers, teamwork.tf actually may understate activity on Community servers.

Category tree

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